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« on: December 20, 2010, 08:49:05 PM »

The following is taken from Kathleen Lindleys website : http://www.kathleenlindley.com - she is a truely remarkable lady who worked with Mark Rashid for about 10 years. I have seen one of her clincs in the UK about 3 or 4 years ago and her book : In the Company of Horses is recommended. Just felt that I should draw the forums attention to it particularly as we probably need something to ponder on other than this bloomin weather  Wink  Enjoy :  Smiley 

THIS I BELIEVE 

...that beliefs are a choice.

I choose to believe that horses are smart, hardworking, willing creatures. I choose to see horses as confused, uncomfortable, hurting, scared or uneducated rather than lazy, disrespectful, evasive or stupid. I believe horses are sentient beings who can feel pain, have memories and form relationships.

I believe that as herd animals who understand and thrive in a structured social herd environment, horses look for and find peace in confident, quietly assertive leaders. Horses may not be so concerned about liking their leader as they are about the stability and good judgment of their leader.

I believe that many of us are pursuing a similar goal; to have a satisfying relationship with a good, solid, safe horse who consistently and successfully performs his job.

I believe there is more than one “road to Rome”. The ways I present and practice are not the only valuable or valid ways of working with horses. They’re just the ways I’m familiar with and have worked to some extent for me and other horsemen I know.

I believe that it’s about the horse. It’s about what he needs, how he might see his world and how he communicates. I don’t know that we could ever walk a mile in his shoes, really. The divide between the species is too great. But the work we do must center around the horse, and when we’ve truly achieved that, our presence adds to his, not his to ours.

I believe in pragmatism. If our horses have a job, they need to understand what their job description, job requirements and job benefits are. Certain individual horses may or may not be suited for certain job situations. This is reality and responsibility. I believe a horse can appreciate and understand an honest days’ work.

I believe in independent thought. Sometimes we can get in the position where we’ve subscribed to some sort of dogma and maybe lost some of our independent thought. Dogma can be discipline-specific (dressage dogma, jumping dogma, western pleasure dogma, natural horsemanship dogma, etc), breed-specific (gaited horse dogma, pony dogma, Thoroughbred dogma, etc), gender specific (gelding, stallion, mare), for instance. Each horse and person we meet is an individual. As horsemen, we need to understand why we do what we do, rather than blindly follow dogma. We need to ask questions, experiment and make stuff up. Dogma needs to be examined, questioned and tested. The horses will tell the truth.

I believe that there are three elements to address in the horse and in the person: the body, the mind/intellect and the spirit/emotions. If we work to address all three elements, consistent learning and a quiet, stable frame of mind can result. It is important that the horse’s body and mind are doing the same thing at the same time if possible. If we can work with the inside of the horse (his mind and spirit) the outside (body) of the horse will come along. If he’s okay inside he’ll be okay outside.

I believe that the frame of mind of the horse is of great importance in training. A horse who is in a heightened state of mind, who is stressed, worried, anxious or bursting with excess energy will have trouble learning. As horsemen, we need to be able to recognize and reward only profitable frames of mind. We need to be careful to reward quietness, calmness and attentiveness. We probably shouldn’t pet, comfort or otherwise reward a scared, anxious or stressed horse. This is hard for us as humans, as we benefit from nurturing when we’re anxious, fearful or stressed. Horses do not have this tradition of nurturing weak or heightened emotional states in their culture.

I believe we are the energy we project. It is possible for our energy to say one thing while our words say another. Our horse reads our energy. Positive energy (and thoughts/words) attracts other beings while negative energy (and thoughts/words) repels other beings. Horses have an amazing capacity to absorb and process varied types of energy, but not without cost or benefit to themselves and others.

I believe everyone (horse and human) has a story. Everyone has tragedy in them, has pain and bottomless wounds. Trauma is subjective. We do not know the burden others carry. Horses are perfect at being horses. If we ask the horse to carry our story and our trauma, that can cause some confusion between us where we'd like to see understanding.     

I believe that all we can do, as people and as horsemen, is the best we can do that day. We need not apologize for doing the best we can or for not knowing what we don’t yet know. Tomorrow we’ll hopefully do better and know more than today. Horses have an extraordinary capacity to move on, and we could learn from that.

~Kathleen Lindley

 
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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2010, 10:30:19 PM »

Specially love the last paragraph!
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« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2010, 09:36:32 AM »

Interesting stuff, have to add to the following....

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The divide between the species is too great. But the work we do must center around the horse, and when we’ve truly achieved that, our presence adds to his, not his to ours.

I believe that the divide isn't as great as we might think...and the presence of the horse certainly does add to ours.  I believe that when we become more like the horse we become more like ourselves.

I believe that it is ok to comfort a horse, but that comfort probably best comes in simply being stable and strong as opposed petting etc.  I believe horses do things we can't see and we are only beginning to scratch the surface Smiley 

Thanks Sue, food for thought and like you say, more positive food for thought than the weather.  I like the way each sentence starts with "I believe".  They are just her thoughts and she is not saying that this is "gospel" and cannot be discussed...
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« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2010, 10:59:24 AM »

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I like the way each sentence starts with "I believe".  They are just her thoughts and she is not saying that this is "gospel" and cannot be discussed...

    Cheesy  well she does state
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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2010, 11:13:24 AM »

Yeah, it's good....I wish more people thought like that, then we might really get some where Smiley

I think that people who like to learn tend to know that their beliefs can be changed...possibly the one constant one is that we don't know everything. 
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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2011, 07:01:06 PM »

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I believe in independent thought. Sometimes we can get in the position where we’ve subscribed to some sort of dogma and maybe lost some of our independent thought. Dogma can be discipline-specific (dressage dogma, jumping dogma, western pleasure dogma, natural horsemanship dogma, etc), breed-specific (gaited horse dogma, pony dogma, Thoroughbred dogma, etc), gender specific (gelding, stallion, mare), for instance. Each horse and person we meet is an individual. As horsemen, we need to understand why we do what we do, rather than blindly follow dogma. We need to ask questions, experiment and make stuff up. Dogma needs to be examined, questioned and tested. The horses will tell the truth.

This I love! If you practice the art of always asking "why?" you'll be surprised how many questions there are and how many answers aren't as black and white as some might like us to believe! But then i'm a chronic questioner by nature!  Cheesy
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2011, 07:12:00 PM »

This I love! If you practice the art of always asking "why?" you'll be surprised how many questions there are and how many answers aren't as black and white as some might like us to believe! But then i'm a chronic questioner by nature!  Cheesy

Girl after my own heart  Cheesy  However as I recently found out sadly there are people out there who believe that there is only one way and are that egotistical that there way is the only way and when questioned or an alternative suggestion is offered it's like lighting the blue touch paper !!
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2011, 07:50:42 PM »

A chronic questioner...ha ha.  This is a good thing certainly. I think if you are asking questions then you will be more likely to listen to other people's ideas when they come along....
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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2011, 08:55:56 PM »

A chronic questioner...ha ha.  This is a good thing certainly. I think if you are asking questions then you will be more likely to listen to other people's ideas when they come along....

Absolutely! Whether it's a person, a horse, a dog or whatever, I think everyone has a right to an opinion. I like to think I at the very least listen to the opinion (though i'm not going to pretend that I don't suffer the human flaw of having preconceptions about some peoples opinions  Grin )before deciding if it either fits with my own belief system or challenges it. If it challenges it - is there something to be learnt from that?? Most often there is, even if it's only coming to understand that there is another potentially valid opinion!
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